Advance Magazine Stats Discussion - July 2003
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. From: Kristi Wachter [[email protected]] Message-ID: [[email protected]] Date: 22 Jul 2003 01:00:37 -0400 Okay, I know some folks here are inclined to shoot the messenger, so hang on a sec while I don my bulletproof vest - Right then. Onward. Here's some commentary on completions stats from Advance! magazine. The highlights: * AOLA's completion stats are UP, both recently and over the past ten years * OT Preps are up, after a slump (discussed on ars); OT V completions are up * Clear and Sunshine Rundown completions are up and down; so, more or less holding steady * examining ALL Advance completions lists (minus 1), fewer than 3000 individuals have been listed * since Advance! only started listing completions in 1994, we can't tell how current stats compare to the boom years of the 80s THE DATA This analysis is based on completions lists from Advance! magazine, currently the magazine of AOLA (the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles), formerly the magazine of the Advanced Orgs (there are several worldwide). (There are other Advance! magazines published in other countries. These lists were taken from the Los Angeles version only. Where I refer to Advance below, please remember that I am talking only about the LA Advance. Other countries' Advance lists will be posted and analyzed as I get them.) I'm missing issue 141, so we have no completions lists from that one yet. I'll be happy to include it when I get it; if anyone can send me the magazine or the data, I'd be very grateful. Based on the stats from issues 135-145, I suspect it lists 100-150 completions, and would probably not affect any of the following conclusions greatly. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'll be happy to update the analysis when I get the data. With the exception of issue 141, I have posted completions lists from every issue of Advance! that had them. The raw data is available here: http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/advance/ Advance! magazine has been published since the early 1970s. However, completion lists did not start appearing until issue 121, published in 1994. Issue 123 does not list completions. The lack of completions lists from the 1970s and 1980s leaves us with a very incomplete picture of AOLA's long-term statistics. The long-term tally of Flag completions from Source (http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/source/) show that Flag completions peaked in the late 1980s and never recovered. This is likely to be true for AOLA as well; Clear attests reported in the Auditor also peaked in the 1980s, making it seem likely that this was a trend that held true for Scientology throughout the US and possibly the world. The data is imperfect in other ways. It's unclear whether it includes completions by staff members; it may be inconsistent, including them sometimes but not other times. In addition, the data collection is rather sloppy - there are numerous duplicate entries, names are frequently misspelled, and the names of services are not always standardized. Since I have not removed the duplicate entries, these stats are, in fact, slightly inflated. In addition, some individuals are "retreading" old levels - people who have attested to upper OT levels are re-attesting to Clear and lower OT levels, and people are redoing OT Eligibility. Needless to say, when this happens, it does not indicate that Scientology is growing (although it probably represents additional income to Scientology). On the whole, though, I believe the data gives us a much clearer picture of AOLA than pure speculation and guesswork. I find it most interesting to know that fewer than 3000 individuals have EVER been listed in Advance completion lists. AOLA'S OT STATS ARE UP The data speaks for itself here; while annual total completion tallies have gone up and down over the years, the total for 2002 was way up, and AOLA looks to be on track for another upstat year. Total Completions by Year: 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 685 345 1014 923 724 834 733 1028 1714 1101 (2003 is, of course, only half over.) Based on discussions I've had with Scientologists and conversations I've read on a.r.s., I believe OT Preps, OT III, and OT V are among the most important items to watch - OT V partially because it can be so expensive, often requiring many intensives to complete. Here are the respective stats by year: 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 OT PREPS 55 40 88 49 69 64 57 92 111 86 OT III 51 18 60 52 47 63 66 69 208 119 OT V 103 22 54 53 50 38 40 49 132 98 (The OT V completions include both OT V and New OT V Audited NOTs.) Note that AOLA was downstat for years on OT V completions and has only recently recovered. OT Eligibility is often redone by Scientologists who pause on their way through the upper levels. One individual was listed as doing OT Eligibility five times (far enough apart in time that they appear to be redoing the service rather than duplicate entries). 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 OT ELIGIBILITY 51 13 92 89 103 117 69 143 164 105 AOLA'S CLEAR AND SUNSHINE RUNDOWN STATS ARE NOT UP Clear and Sunshine Rundown completions may not be as good of an indicator for an Advanced Org like AOLA, since Clear can be done at many local orgs. However, it could indicate that AOLA is not serving as many newer members as in the past, but instead is primarily serving long-time members. 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 CLEAR 18 4 42 31 34 55 44 35 43 26 SUNSHINE RD 16 4 36 31 27 56 43 31 42 26 If AOLA can keep up the trend for 2003, they may manage to beat the all-time (AOLA) record number of Clear attests from 1999. DISCONTINUED SERVICES AOLA has not listed any completions for the following service from 2000-present, although completions were listed in the 1990s: Academy Levels 0-IV ARC Straightwire Class IV, V, VI, VII, or VIII courses or internships (except 2 Class VIII Course completions in 2003) Clear Certainty Rundown False Purpose Rundown Grades 0-IV (except 1 each Grade I and IV in 2000) Hubbard Qualified Scientologist course Keeping Scientology Working course Method One Co-Audit Course Objectives Auditing OEC Pro Metering Course Pro TRs course or Pro Upper Indoc TR Course PTS/SP Rundown or Detection Course Purification Rundown Student Hat Course Study Certainty Course Success through Communication Course FEWER THAN 3000 INDIVIDUALS My database of Advance completions contains 9101 entries. (Each entry is one individual completing one service in one issue of Advance.) The simplest name search (exact matches) shows that these 9101 entries were attributed to 3194 individuals - there are fewer than 3200 individual names in the database. However, many of these are slight variations on the same name: Al Parades and Al Paredes, or Alex Kreis and Alex Kries. A simple algorithm to remove probable duplicates (matching the first and last letters of the first and last names: AlPs for Al Parades) finds only 2584 unique names. However, that algorithm sometimes misidentifies pairs as duplicates when they're not. (Were there someone named Amil Peres, it would erroneously match Al Parades.) My best guess - without personally inspecting each pair - is that the total number of individuals is approximately 2800. I am therefore confident in my conservative estimate that there are fewer than 3000 individuals in the list. In addition, there are 451 exact duplicate entries (same name with the exact same spelling), or 225 extraneous entries; using the probable duplicate algorithm and actually checking each duplicate found raises the number to 515 actual duplicate entries, for 252 extraneous entries (some are actually triplicates). Some of these duplicates are retreads, and some are truly duplicates. As I refine my database, I will probably revise the data to exclude the duplicates. For now, the data is slightly inflated. So, there you have it. I'm sure sharper eyes and more knowledgeable minds than mine will find lots of interesting observations. I think it's worth reviewing the EXCELLENT thread at http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm= b556547b650bcd0529a238ae0fcd9589%40anonymous.poster&rnum=1&prev= /groups%3Fq%3Dg:thl1166349425d%26dq%3D%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26 selm%3Db556547b650bcd0529a238ae0fcd9589%2540anonymous.poster as well as other commentary on Scientology stat trends. As Warrior has pointed out in a different thread, just because completion stats appear to be up, it doesn't mean overall stats are up. How's the GI? How's the Bodies in the Shop? How's the New Starts? Only a few Scientology executives know the answers to those questions. I'd like to thank Warrior for all his invaluable thoughts about completions stats and trends in general, and Cerridwen, Lulu Belle, ladayla, and Deomorto for their excellent and thought-provoking contributions to the earlier discussion of these stats in August 2002 (URL above). I also extend huge thanks to Cerridwen, who has contributed so much data to the database, and all those kind souls who have made data from magazines available to me. You know who you are (even if I don't!). All comments, suggestions, corrections, and whatnot gratefully received. Especially, of course, the whatnot. Respectfully submitted, Kristi ARSCC(wdne) Stats Wrangler (fully hatted) -- Kristi Wachter the activist formerly known as "Jour" (before $cientology outed me) If I am not who you say I am, then you are not who you think you are. - James Baldwin I think $cientology is hurting people and breaking the law, and I want them to stop it. See http://www.scientology-lies.com for more. KSW: http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/alteringtech.htm
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:40:43 -0600 Message-ID: [[email protected]] In [[email protected]], Kristi Wachter [[email protected]] wrote: ... snip ... >FEWER THAN 3000 INDIVIDUALS > >My database of Advance completions contains 9101 entries. (Each entry is >one individual completing one service in one issue of Advance.) > >The simplest name search (exact matches) shows that these 9101 entries >were attributed to 3194 individuals - there are fewer than 3200 individual >names in the database. > >However, many of these are slight variations on the same name: Al Parades >and Al Paredes, or Alex Kreis and Alex Kries. A simple algorithm to remove >probable duplicates (matching the first and last letters of the first and >last names: AlPs for Al Parades) finds only 2584 unique names. However, >that algorithm sometimes misidentifies pairs as duplicates when they're >not. (Were there someone named Amil Peres, it would erroneously match Al >Parades.) My best guess - without personally inspecting each pair - is >that the total number of individuals is approximately 2800. I am therefore >confident in my conservative estimate that there are fewer than 3000 >individuals in the list. That's an interesting problem. You might also try soundex matching, or matching after vowel elimination. Data scrubbing's a fascinating thing.
From: Warrior [[email protected]] Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Date: 22 Jul 2003 02:34:09 -0700 Message-ID: [[email protected]] In article [[email protected]], Kristi Wachter says... > (Great post; snip all but a few things.) > >I'm missing issue 141, so we have no completions lists from that one >yet. I have this issue, so I'll post the names and services completed. >I'll be happy to include it when I get it; if anyone can send me the >magazine or the data, I'd be very grateful. Based on the stats from >issues 135-145, I suspect it lists 100-150 completions, I count 143 completions. >and would probably not affect any of the following conclusions greatly. >Of course, if I'm wrong, I'll be happy to update the analysis when I get >the data. > >With the exception of issue 141, I have posted completions lists from >every issue of Advance! that had them. > >The raw data is available here: > >http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/advance/ Thanks very much for this! (big snip) >As Warrior has pointed out in a different thread, just because >completion stats appear to be up, it doesn't mean overall stats >are up. How's the GI? How's the Bodies in the Shop? How's the >New Starts? Only a few Scientology executives know the answers >to those questions. It appears to me there has been a lot of the same people taking multiple services -- what the cult calls the "re-sign line". And I would bet that a very large percentage of completions are by people who have used advance payments on account, rather than paying at the time of taking their services. I notice quite a few old timers having to do services in accordance with the "golden age of tech". >I'd like to thank Warrior for all his invaluable thoughts about >completions stats and trends in general, and Cerridwen, Lulu Belle, >ladayla, and Deomorto for their excellent and thought-provoking >contributions to the earlier discussion of these stats in August >2002 (URL above). It's always my pleasure to answer your questions, Kristi. :) >I also extend huge thanks to Cerridwen, who has contributed so much >data to the database, and all those kind souls who have made data from >magazines available to me. You know who you are (even if I don't!). > > >All comments, suggestions, corrections, and whatnot gratefully received. > >Especially, of course, the whatnot. > > >Respectfully submitted, > > >Kristi >ARSCC(wdne) Stats Wrangler (fully hatted) Warrior - Sunshine disinfects http://warrior.xenu.ca "An SP is as valuable as he can help others."
Message-ID: [[email protected]] Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:16:41 -0400 From: Ed [[email protected]] Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Kristi Wachter wrote: > > Okay, I know some folks here are inclined to shoot the messenger, so hang > on a sec while I don my bulletproof vest - > > Right then. Onward. > > Here's some commentary on completions stats from Advance! magazine. > {snip awesome and amazing piece of work] One possible explanation for AOLA being upstat is that their increase comes at the expense of Flag and/or Freewinds. I think there is a basic huge difference between the locations of LA and Clearwater that drives this. LA has a large and diverse old community of Scns and above all, is a huge and diverse city and not a bad place to live. CW on the other hand is a place where there is a lot less real world life. But I bet the big difference is that Flag is getting more outrageously oppressive and a lopt of people are quietly voting with their feet, so to speak. Only question is: if one has ever taken AO services at Flag are they forbidden from going to another AO? Ed
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. From: Kristi Wachter [[email protected]] Message-ID: [[email protected]] Date: 22 Jul 2003 12:27:43 -0400 Ed [[email protected]] writes: >Kristi Wachter wrote: >> > {snip awesome and amazing piece of work] [blush] > One possible explanation for AOLA being upstat is that their >increase comes at the expense of Flag and/or Freewinds. I think this could be very true. I understand it's considerably cheaper to do stuff at AOLA than at Flag. >I think there >is a basic huge difference between the locations of LA and Clearwater >that drives this. LA has a large and diverse old community of Scns and >above all, is a huge and diverse city and not a bad place to live. CW >on the other hand is a place where there is a lot less real world >life. But I bet the big difference is that Flag is getting more >outrageously oppressive and a lopt of people are quietly voting with >their feet, so to speak. >Only question is: if one has ever taken AO services at Flag are they >forbidden from going to another AO? Good question. I don't think so. Cass Darmody, for example, has done most OT stuff at AOLA, but attested to OT III at Flag - then went on to OT IV and V at AOLA. I can find a few others who did at least one OT level at Flag and then did one or more later at AOLA. Bodhi Elfman's another example. It seems much more common to go the other way - AOLA, then Flag - but it does happen that folks do AO services at Flag and then do others at AOLA. I'm curious now what the stats look like at other AOs in other countries. Anybody with a good collection of Advance mags from elsewhere, please feel free to send me the lists for analysis! Kristi -- Kristi Wachter the activist formerly known as "Jour" (before $cientology outed me) If I am not who you say I am, then you are not who you think you are. - James Baldwin I think $cientology is hurting people and breaking the law, and I want them to stop it. See http://www.scientology-lies.com for more. KSW: http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/alteringtech.htm
From: [email protected] (Lulu Belle) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Date: 22 Jul 2003 17:53:53 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: [[email protected]] Kristi, Great work. There's a job for you as an Evaluator at Int Exec Strata. There's a tremendous amount to respond to in this post, so I'll just bring up one small piece of data here. I think I may have somewhat of a general idea of some of what has occurred here regarding the affluence in OT completions: The Golden Age of Tech stuff was released in 1996. About a year before that, a whole lot of staff were pulled out of the orgs (including AOLA) and sent to Flag to train to be auditors, etc. Without going into a lot of gory details, the amount of staff that were ripped for Flag training pretty much devastated the orgs. In addition to this, management didn't want anyone but GAT auditors auditing public in the SO orgs. The problem was, the SO orgs didn't have any GAT auditors. It's possible that AO had maybe a couple of tech terminals who were able to deliver this stuff, but not enough to really service any significant amount of public. The only place that had them was Flag. As a result, all the public who were going onto their OT levels were more or less forced to do them at Flag. When the AO re-Saint Hill Size thing occurred after the renos were finished a couple of years ago, I'm sure there was a lot of pressure from management to get these people in training comp'd and back to AOLA. (As a note, higher orgs like Flag have been known to hang on to interning auditors forever, as they provide a source of free delivery for the org.) As a result, I'm sure a lot of newly trained GAT auditors came back from Flag to AO, which allowed increased delivery to occur. Another issue: The release of the Golden Age of Tech meant that a lot, if not all, public had to do their lower level services all over again. As a result, it probably took a few years before there were public you could deliver the OT Levels *to*. One more thing: It's obvious that Scientology has been hurting financially. It has always been seen as a "why" when the orgs aren't doing well, and Scientology isn't making money, that there are "stops" or "arbitraries" being put on people's progress, or they are being "programmed off the Bridge." It's when people get on the upper Bridge that they spend the big bucks, so if they aren't being gotten up through OT, Scientology isn't making money. What this means in layman's terms is that public are being told they can't do their OT levels for various reasons. They are being put on long eligibility programs, they are being made to do other services first, etc. When management gets into a very careful and paranoid mode this happens. It often happens after a few flaps of people doing their OT Levels and asking for refunds, people doing an OT Level and going Type III, people doing their OT Levels and leaving Scientology and posting on the internet, etc. There may have been some of this stuff that occurred a few years back. Management, as a result, got super careful, a lot of public weren't being let on, and everything stalled. Now, Scientology isn't making money, management is panicing, and they are reversing their tune. There's a pendulum that swings back and forth on this subject in Scientology. Not to get too technical here, but there was a bulletin Martin Ottomann posted a couple of days ago saying basically that not all Clears had to do Grades. This is definitely a different tune than management was singing a few years back. It's an indicator that the pendulum has swung into a "get people onto the OT Levels no matter what" mode.
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:14:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. From: jommycross@[127.1] (Jommy Cross) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Message-ID: [aa6d070d7a08ecfa8988ce78288ce845@rebleep] On 22 Jul 2003 01:00:37 -0400, Kristi Wachter [[email protected]] wrote in msg [[email protected]]: >Okay, I know some folks here are inclined to shoot the messenger, so hang >on a sec while I don my bulletproof vest - Ready... aim... THANKS KRISTI Ever yours in fandom, Jommy Cross --------------------------------------------------- This message brought to you by Radio Free Albemuth: before you hallucinate --------------------------------------------------
From: Zinj [[email protected]] Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:27:18 -0700 Message-ID: [[email protected]] In article [aa6d070d7a08ecfa8988ce78288ce845@rebleep], jommycross@[127.1] says... > On 22 Jul 2003 01:00:37 -0400, Kristi Wachter > [[email protected]] wrote in msg [[email protected]]: > > >Okay, I know some folks here are inclined to shoot the messenger, so hang > >on a sec while I don my bulletproof vest - > > Ready... aim... THANKS KRISTI > > Ever yours in fandom, > Jommy Cross Shooting messengers is fun, and less problematical than shooting stats... so, I'm glad you're armored :) It does seem that the GAT crew has recognized the value of 'cash flow', and speeded up the process. What would be *most* interesting would be an 'age/time served' anyalysis, since, my impression is that there is very little 'new' growth, but primarilly long termers/their children. If there were any way to break out the actual 'new' suckers, it'd be invaluable, although, probably beyond the database *yet*. Zinj -- You can't get your parking validated if you don't have a car
From: [email protected] (Lulu Belle) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Date: 26 Jul 2003 06:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: [[email protected]] Kristi Wachter [[email protected]] wrote in message news:[[email protected]]... > Okay, I know some folks here are inclined to shoot the messenger, so hang > on a sec while I don my bulletproof vest - > > Right then. Onward. > > Here's some commentary on completions stats from Advance! magazine. (snip) > AOLA has not listed any completions for the following service from > 2000-present, although completions were listed in the 1990s: > > Academy Levels 0-IV > ARC Straightwire > Class IV, V, VI, VII, or VIII courses or internships (except 2 Class VIII > Course completions in 2003) > Clear Certainty Rundown > False Purpose Rundown > Grades 0-IV (except 1 each Grade I and IV in 2000) > Hubbard Qualified Scientologist course > Keeping Scientology Working course > Method One Co-Audit Course > Objectives Auditing > OEC > Pro Metering Course > Pro TRs course or Pro Upper Indoc TR Course > PTS/SP Rundown or Detection Course > Purification Rundown > Student Hat Course > Study Certainty Course > Success through Communication Course They're not allowed to deliver them any more, because this is considered "competing" with ASHO, LA Org and CC Int. If you do a newsgroup search in Google for "PAC Unscramble" I worte up a detailed explanation of this at one time.
From: [email protected] (basicbasic) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Date: 26 Jul 2003 12:38:23 -0700 Message-ID: [[email protected]] [email protected] (Lulu Belle) wrote in message [[email protected]]... > Kristi, > > Great work. There's a job for you as an Evaluator at Int Exec Strata. You too. :) When management gets into a very careful and paranoid mode > this happens. It often happens after a few flaps of people doing their > OT Levels and asking for refunds, people doing an OT Level and going > Type III, people doing their OT Levels and leaving Scientology and > posting on the internet, etc. I'm interested in stats on these areas. Your best guess may be all that I can get. Those going type 3, what percentage is from upper levels? I know one friend did this on PTS/SP study. What percentage of active parishioners? Hows that compare to average man in street? What percentage leave after OT levels and don't post? bb .,
From: Warrior [[email protected]] Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Advance! analysis: AOLA stats are up. Pretty much. Sort of. Date: 26 Jul 2003 19:42:59 -0700 Message-ID: [[email protected]] In article [[email protected]], Lulu Belle [[email protected]] says... > >They're not allowed to deliver them any more, because this is >considered "competing" with ASHO, LA Org and CC Int. If you do a >newsgroup search in Google for "PAC Unscramble" I worte up a detailed >explanation of this at one time. Here it is. Warrior - Sunshine disinfects http://warrior.xenu.ca ===================== ~From: Lulu Belle ([email protected]) ~Subject: Re: AOLA stats July 2002 ~Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology ~Date: 2002-08-22 18:41:44 PST "Cerridwen" [[email protected]] wrote in message news: (snip) > > > OT Preparations 20 12 0 59 > > > > and this is very interesting - 0 OT Preps for a quarter? > > > Yes, I went back to that Issue and re confirmed it. Very > strange. > > > What that > > says is that they had no auditors for this at all - what I would > > suspect from this is that a) They had some severe refund problems 3 > > quarters ago - I do know they have had problems with a couple of type > > 3s just prior to that b) during the period of no OT preps completions > > the auditors and C/Ses were getting firmly beaten around the head and > > retreaded - possibly a coupla RPFings? c) They have had a delivery > > mission in the org for the last quarter once the auditors were gotten > > back into delivery. > > Yes OR another possibility is that somehow they allowed most of the OT > preps to be done at ASHO. I know that sounds weird but I noticed in > recent Promo that they are showing pictures of the AOLA/ASHO tech > delivery team. Of course I got a bazillion copies of that promo but now > I can't find a single piece of it. > > Kind of weird to be combining orgs like that. I wonder if they are > just so short of auditors that AOLA had to use ASHO for OT Preps. No. It's the PAC Unscramble Eval. There's an LRH Policy called "Prices, Upper Orgs." Per this policy, any higher org can offer any service a lower org can offer, providing they charge more for it. I believe the minimum amount additional they have to charge over the lower org's rates is 10%. PAC was originally designed, or conceptualized, to be a place where a public person would move from one org to the other as he progressed up the Bridge. He'd start at LA Day, move into ASHO, then into AOLA. In the old days, before Dianetic Clear, the org progression thing pretty much existed. The person would do his academy levels and lower grades at a Class IV org (LA Org). The person had to finish the Briefing Course (ASHO) before he could do Power (at AOLA), then the Clearing Course (at AOLA), then Solo and his OT Levels. Dianetic Clear pretty much changed all that. A person could go clear without having any training at all. Without going through all of the details of the history, Solo became something that was offered at all three orgs. The DCSI (later becoming the CCRD) was offered at all three orgs. OT Preps and Elig were available at both ASHO and AO. You didn't have to do the BC to do the Clearing Course, so you didn't have to go to ASHO at all if you had the bucks to do your Preps at AO. You could do your whole bridge at AO, from the Purif through OT V, if you wanted to. The original "vision" of the PAC Bridge became three entities (five, if you consider the Day and Foundation orgs of LA Org and ASHO as separate orgs) which operated totally independently and competed with each other for the same public for the same services. My time track and history on this may not be too accurate, but I believe the basic information is correct. There was an LRH eval that came out (late seventies? I'm not sure when) where the purpose was to "unscramble" the PAC bridge by forcing orgs to "concentrate on their specialized services." One of the biggest issues that existed was the competition of AOLA and ASHO regarding OT Preps delivery. ASHO is supposed to be, in theory, the "official" OT Preps org. In reality, though, it has generally been a service that most people do at AOLA. Several reasons: AOLA has more money and has generally had more and better auditors, both SO and non-SO. Preps is often part of an "OT Package" at AO. This means that if you buy your OT Levels, you could get your preps at a discount. (Theoretically, you could still do them at ASHO, but most people didn't.) Third, there was an idea that was promoted, overtly or covertly by the AO, that if you did your preps there they would be shorter than they would be at ASHO, because AO had more of a vested interest in moving you onto your OT Levels than ASHO did. (It would be more in ASHO's interest to keep you forever, since by completing you, they'd lose you.) The subject of preps delivery was a very hot subject in PAC. Regardless of the theory that an org "booms through training," factually, the vast majority of org income comes from HGC delivery. OT Preps is/was probably the biggest moneymaker in both AO and ASHO. Not to mention the other org stats that it has a huge effect on like: Value of Services Delivered, Well Done Auditing Hours, Paid Completions. It's factually, one of the biggest, if not the biggest, stat maker in an SO Org. There have been forcible handlings that have occurred over the years to eliminate the competition between AO and ASHO on this subject. The "PAC Unscramble" thing had a lot of attention of Int managment in recent years. Whatever the AO/ASHO Prep thing that Cerri mentioned was that she got in the promo piece, and the weird preps stats from AO are, I'm sure it's a result of one of these PAC "handlings" to "unscramble the PAC Bridge."
From: Warrior [[email protected]] Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Advance! issue 141 (circa April 1999) completions Date: 22 Jul 2003 07:53:17 -0700 Message-ID: [[email protected]] Advance! issue 141 (circa April 1999) completions (Note that Tami Wohlberg's name is listed twice as having completed OT Eligibility. So this makes 142 actual completions, and not 143 as I stated in my earlier post in response to Kristi, as I had not at that time realized her name was listed twice.) RELEASES AND GRADUATES Scientology Drug Rundown (5) James Ayres Patty Pritchett Dan Brown Lisa Lashaway Maria Lotter PTS Rundown (1) Barbara Howell Grade 3 Expanded (2) Mary Jo Ripp Leah Schmiedeke Grade 5 (1) Anna Curtis Grade 5A (5) Joe Arnett Nabila Khashoggi Paul Maselli Henry Robinett Anna Curtis R6EW (1) Joe Arnett The State of Clear (7) Iraida Reina Sharon Fry Connie Morgan Mike Carberry Mo Pisciottano Jessica Gundlefinger John Gaskin Sunshine Rundown (7) Iraida Reina Sharon Fry Connie Morgan Mike Carberry Mo Pisciottano Jessica Gundlefinger John Gaskin New Hubbard Solo Auditor Course Part I (13) Jessica Paolo Beth McKinley Juan Colomer Sandra Laughlin Lisa Lashaway Stacy Ruiz Charlene Williams Walter Fatoric Diane Boyers Marya Burke Marti Fackler Lynne Hansen Keth Frost Solo Auditor Certainty Course (4) Harold Belsheim Dawn Kaehn-Stenico Bob Serra Janet Valdez OT Preparations (7) Joe Arnett Stacy Ruiz Juan Colomer Lyle Stubblefield Aesha Jayasinghe Keith Frost Anna Curtis Solo Auditor Course Part II (9) Kate Scott-Douglas Joe Arnett Russ Kobrin Joan Shrum-Brown Stacy Ruiz Misha Segal Bonnie Johnson Juan Colomer Jessica Paolo OT Eligibility (16, as Tami Wohlberg is listed twice) Lissa Walker Lisa London Tami Wohlberg Joe Arnett Dan Sales David Dempster Jack Spears Kate Scott-Douglas Tami Wohlberg (yes, she's listed twice) Art Neumann Debbie Edwards Mike Rubio Stacy Ruiz Scott Reilly Andy Staffer Aris Morfopoulos Glen Zimmer New OT I (14) Ali Shaw Lori Pettyjohn Virginia Volpe Anthony Courtemanche Marti Wiggins Beth Kelly Teresita Reina Fred Pierson Tomi Bowling Tony Bowling Cory Trammell Hana Zetzer Stacy Ruiz Elaine Martinez OT II (23) Salila Travers Dave Short Richard Farr Patty Hallam Bob Kretschmer Todd Gilbert Gail Derosia Will Wiatt Yolanda Szaniszlo Yvon Arsenault Edit Eskinazi Denny Fenn Grace Langevoort Steve Spacher Jim Reding Anthony Courtemanche Ray Tjepkes Marti Wiggins Lee Terbush Teresita Reina George Gaut Valerie Heifler Maria Bovolini OT III (5) Salila Travers Becky Bertolucci Ilona Bischoff John Joseph Babette Reynolds New OT IV (6) Lori Prescott Stefano Orlandi Dawn Halasz Laura Springer Ilona Bischoff Becky Bertolucci New OT V (7) Toni Colson Terry Williams Janet Schilling Connie Kaiser Anne Kraft Chris Crinklaw Mike Finch Hubbard Ket to Life (1) Nicci Lotz Hubbard Life Orientation Course (2) Allison Boles Phil Kolpek OT Doctorate Course (3) Stefano Orlandi Patty Schwartz Mary Taufer Exteriorization and the Phenomena of Space Course (3) Peeter Alvet Nancy Turner-Alvet Steven David Horwich === Warrior - Sunshine disinfects http://warrior.xenu.ca